>I was being totally sarcastic, responding to Tim's idea of a federal
>policy currently solving a problem and doing something right for
Your unintentional use of the double negative in your previous message was
>I imagine your forefathers on a porch pointing a finger with certainty and verve before telling a
I imagine them sailing dragon ships and swinging axes and brothers killing
each other for the right to be king of Sweden or Scotland.
>This is a particularly interesting distinction. The day when honor
>died at the sword (or axe!) of law and reason.
What is "honor"? Skalds and popular historians honor powerful jarls and kings
My knightly ancestor went into Greyfriars after Robert the Bruce stabbed John
Comyn and made sure that the Red Comyn was dead.
My 14 great grandfather's honor lives on, nobody took away his lands or title.
Robert the Bruce became king of Scotland. Most Scots don't care about him
being excommunuicated for murdering somebody in a church sanctuary.
77 Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But I know one thing that never dies,
The glory of the great dead ---The Sayings of Har
>Count on whitey to dish that one out.
Don't blame the white Americans for what happened to the evil Spaniards. Waht
goes around comes around.
The Spanish hidalgos who lost their land grants in the Mexican Cession of
1848 were white too, but they were proud of their illiteracy. The hidalgos
dared not be seen reading anything which might be thought of as a heretical
text, they might be arrested and tried for heresy by the Inquisition.
The ancestors of the hidalgos had bought their titles from Felipe II, king of
Spain for the equivalent of $900. The king used the money from gold looted
from the New World and the Phillipines to arm Flemish mercenaries to fight
the Protestant Reformation. Problem with being a petty noble was that they
could no longer work at any trade, so they usually left Spain to seek their
fortune in the New World.
The hidalgos joined bands of freebooters like the Cortez piracy of Mexico, or
they stayed loyal to the king os Spain and received outright land grants or
limited encomiendas that allowed them to enslave the native population and
work them to death.
The hidalgos started out in Spain without land or title or honor and their
careers ended in the southwest, without land, title, or honor.
>B a m ! And in steps the bank.
The banks really didn't become a problem in America until a central bank was
established after the Civil War. One of my relatives was a famous American
poet, though he is not as well knowns as, say, Nathaniel Hawthorne. My poet
relative's day job was as a banker, but he retired from that business when
central bank was established. He just didn't want to learn the new rules of
The original American dream was religious freedom and financial independence.
My 8-great grandfather and his three brothers left England because of the
heavy taxes levied upon them by James I, House of Stuart. They had a
successful textile business in England, but the taxes were just too high.
So they came to Massachusetts with Governor Endicott and set up the
Massachusetts Bay Colony. They obtained land from the Indians who were glad
they had arrived, since they were afraid of hostile tribes. They surveyed the
land and they were admitted to the Massachusetts Bay Colony as Free Men,
owing nobody for their transportation.
But, they didn't like the religious rigidity and they moved down to Rhode
Island following Roger Williams and set up a huge industrial organization
there. Problem was that the international bankers cut off their credit during
the Panic of 1873 and the resulting bankruptcy was the biggest in American
history. It would be like Microsoft going bankrupt.
Nowadays, the great grandchildren of immigrants are bankers and lawyers and
Madison Avenue ad men and they are now telling Americans that the "American
Dream" is to be in debt up to your ears for your whole life, owing out
for your mass-produced house, car, electronic entertainment center, and all
those things that my ancestors never dreamed of.
And, if Americans are "too lazy" to work and earn the money to keep the
payments flowing to the new Masters of the Universe, they will be perfectly
happy to lend the money to the illegal alien Mexicans, who can be seen
nicer cars than the "lazy" whites.
>Yup. Those whites, and their friends, have bent the rules all along
>the way, too.
What are nations for, if the people of that nation are not all of the same
ethnicity? Are nations supposed to be managerial states, protecting the
interest of the capitalists and helping them exploit the workers of a
Why would a white youth want to enlist in the military to defend a managerial
state. Why would they want to fight to defend Halliburton?
>> The white working class was successful in excluding the Chinese, forbiding
>> them from ever becoming citizens, and even forbidding Chinese laborers from
>Wow, I didn't know that one. Not surprised, though....
John Steinbeck described a mysterious suicide in one of his short stories. It
seems that a young white woman was pregnant with a Chinese laborer's baby, so
she ended it all. Steinbeck was a socialist muckraker who was hated by
California's Republican landowners for telling the truth about what was going
After Steinbeck's horrific "Grapes of Wrath" was published, Eleanor Roosevelt
came to the San Joaquin valley to see the plight of the poor okies for
They were living in shantytowns called "Hoovervilles".
Nowadays, Mexicans and homeless whites live in shantytowns in the bushes by
I was talking to a homeless crippled white woman before Christmas about two
years ago. She was in her 50's. She was begging for money to buy
a tent so she could live under a bridge. I suspected that she might want the
money to buy booze, so I didn't give her any.
She was found dead under the bridge about two weeks later.
Jack London was another socialist, writing about social inequalities in
California around the end of the 19th century, but he is best remembered for
his stories about dogs.
>I bet the consulate cashed out early.
The Mexican consulate set up the Comision Honorifica de Mexicana Americana.
It is now a corporation that only helps Mexicans.
>Meanwhile, stateside, cheap mexican labor continues to build
>McMansions all throughout the distant suburbs. They generally do
>mediocre labor on the cheap while living in the unfinished structures
>- pissing in the walls before installing sheetrock.
About 50% of all sheetrock work is done by Mexicans, busting their ass to do
a job that "lazy whites" won't do, at least not for $10 an hour. That's hard
work, hanging sheetrock.
>Ironically, this involves destroying good farmland and eroding the
>sustainability of the American lifestyle.
The ultimate problem facing California is water. California gets its water
from snowmelt, whether it's snow that fell on the Sierra Nevada, the Cascades,
or the Rockies.
It takes ten years to remove land from agricultural use, but the ag land is
now worth $100K an acre. Housing developers can build 8 house on an acre, and
the mortgage lenders can easily make a million $$$ from that land.
But, the Mexicans arriving here to take menial jobs away from "lazy whites"
also need water for bathing and washing dishes and flushing their toilets.
The farmers need that water to irrigate their crops.
The developer who started Sun City in Phoenix now wants to build a retirement
community on the way to Sequoia National Park. The county supervisors are
fighting this "Boston Ranch" development. Part of Boston Ranch is in a
pristine valley where there is about one steer grazing on every ten acres and
California condors and golden eagles can be seen soaring high above.
If there is no water to develop Boston Ranch into an agrobusiness, there is
also no water to build a luxury retirement community there.
>Maybe, and the land will change drastically as a result. Making it
>less comfortable for all persons, and more dangerous as Barrio/Gangsta
>hardened youth contemplate a tribal war.
Local Mexican "chicanos", grandchildren of illegal aliens who never
naturalized, are saying there will be a gang war here in the valley if the
border jumpers keep coming here and competing with them for jobs.
The new arrivals play soccer and do a lot of things that the "chicanos" call
"naco", that being evidence that the new illegal alien is a sort of
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